Inside a new Dodge lineup!

Hi, this is Dave from Motel's

And I'm here to introduce Nihar and his comprehensive lineup of Chrysler and Dodge cars

A surprisingly comprehensive look at what a Dodge lineup could be using the available platforms that are here

the available engines, and some sense of the current market conditions and what Dodge has already been selling

I hope that you will enjoy it, but without further ado, let's go and meet Nehar

They are out of order because I think based on the images I could find, they had certain directions

So they are listed based on the direction they are able to face to make it look like a spreading lineup

Two of them are not listed because after some thinking, these would exist

I've done designs for them. But they would most likely be suited for other markets

Omni and the dynasty, actually the smallest and the largest on my list

So it would be based off of the Peugeot. 208. I think originally I had neon down there and Omni up here, but based on like, I guess

the history of it, I swapped them. I think Omni should be the smallest. Omni would be 208 based

It'd be Stella small. And I have translated, what was it? I think it's 16,695. I translated the

dollar amount to Mexican pesos. Although right now they've got the attitude there

That's really cool looking. Actually, I would have to say the attitude was the laziest rebadge I've ever seen

The first one was a Hyundai accent. I even think it still had the Hyundai logo on it

Yes, it was one of the lazier rebadges. Yeah. The second generation was Mitsubishi Mirage

And they did a little bit better. They put more Dodge stuff. And it did look a little bit more like a Dodge

They put the crosshair on it. Decent cheap car. This one looks fantastic, actually

It's a Chinese car, but it really suits Dodge, I think. The Gak Impao, that is, wow, I think it's almost something I would come up with

Like, it's a very suiting rebadge, I think. What was interesting to me was when they did the last neon in Mexico, they gave it a whole new look, which looked a lot more like a neon

The Fiatipo, yes. Yeah, the Fiatipo, they redid it as neon. and it looked a lot better

but they were also talking at that point of selling it in the US

of putting in a different engine and selling it. And I think they should still do that

The Tipo neon was almost there. It was still, I don't know

And back when I was looking at my first car, I think I completely glanced over the charger and Durango

and some of the more Dodge-looking dodges. But I think I looked at a dart

and I was like, I don't know if I want to dart, especially being fiat

But the neon, it was almost there, very commendable. I think a commendable third generation after the one we had

And of course, I think because it's sold in large numbers, would do phenomenal here

It's $16,863. That would be your starting price of your Omni, up to 425, 547

So it would go from $16,000. 900 to 21,800. So a little cheaper, like $2,000 cheaper than the corolla range

And I think that is a great place for Dodge to start

And I think most people are in agreement. The ones who want to see Chrysler and Dodge succeed, believe or feel that Dodge should be

starting at that price range so that Chrysler can start at somewhere between 22 and 25,000

The thing that most makes sense is to go after Buick originally

Start by going after Buick. If I was there, I would really crack down on the reliability and all that because those are the consistent things that people find wrong with Chrysler

If that were to be solved, you build up that repertoire and then you start from Buick, you can aim for Accura, you can aim for Lexus, you can aim for Lexus, you can aim for

for Genesis. And I believe that as you slowly build that up, those are the most common sense

competitors for Chrysler. You've got a high range of, it ends at 21,800 for the Omni. And you start off

at your next level up, 2,000 below that. You remember the Dodge Nitro? So you'd have it as a small

crossover, I see. Yes. As my rendering suggests. Yes, it is the newest or the second newest of my renderings because the Citron EC3 just came out

Ah, so you use that as the basis. That makes sense. Yes

So these are fairly realistic in that you've got the Pujos there and that's what we build off of

Yes. When I make my renderings, I usually try to stay within the umbrella

If I'm not able to find something in the umbrella, then I find something that looks like it

And I'll touch on that in the journey and the imperial. The nitro is Citron EC3, which just came out, I think, a few months ago

And that is a small, boxy kind of SUV would be on Stella Small, 99, just under 20,000

I've said it as up to 26,000. This would be the entry point into North America

Because, of course, we like our SUVs and crossovers. I do have a proposal, of course, on my YouTube channel and through one of the cars at Chrysler

We've gotten so out of control with our SUVs and crossovers that there is a reason why I propose some of the things for the Imperial that would break apart some of those SUV and crossover buyers

There are three things that people look for when they're shopping for an SUV or crossover

One is the height. one is the seating capacity sometimes you know you need more than five people you want the

six cedars seven cedars eight cedars sometimes not i've seen nine cedars that would be amazing

six plus you know that's your second criteria and your third is your cargo so that the chrysler

used to do that in the 30s you know with the and 40s the long wheel base chrysler with the three

rows of seats in a sedan that that's it's it's No, I didn't realize that

That is absolutely taking Chrysler back to its roots, if that's true

And I honestly didn't think about that. I just thought that, oh, you know, Chrysler has come up with the minivan

They've come up with some pretty interesting innovations. They should be the one to make a vehicle

That like a sedan that can capture what could potentially be 67 of SUV shoppers So then you step up from the nitro to the well neon I set it at 22

This is based on the Pugé 308. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, there we go

And that's, okay, so you're drawing from TIPO. From the TIPO, yes

Not from the stellar. I acknowledge the, okay, so you have the Dodge Neon, Plymouth Neon

that's your gen 1. The bubbly lights, I don't know how to describe it

I think the SRT4 was introduced in this second generation. It's hard to describe, but I know the cross-side lights, yeah

The cross-side lights, yeah. Gen 2, Tipo, Gen 3. This would be Gen 4

And when they do the Stella, small, medium, whatever, 208 is small, 308 is medium

So this would be on Stella Medium. Some people have told me, Nehar, why don't you have a neon sedan

And I think originally when I did, I did have a neon sedan. I think a neon hatch would be awesome

And I think an SRT4 hatch would really rival the best of the hot hatches we have

A sport hatch. I'm all about keeping sedans, but at least for the smaller cars

Oh, the hatch is a much smarter design. I think neon as a hatch makes a lot more sense

Oh, yeah. And the way that you have it is pretty seamless. It's a nice look. I also wanted to say that unlike most renders, you see a lot of renders who just do outsides

I do insides too. And so this is an inside. The main focus is, of course, the new steering wheel and the You Connect of Dodge

Now, that huge console on the right that comes like all the way up, is that based on the 308 in carrier? Yes

Yes, this is. Interesting. with the UConnect was, steering was introduced in the 2024 E30

E308, I think. But it was the two spoke. So it's just that and the two spoke

The bottom section was my addition. So it's a four spoke with the two being my edition

The bottom comes from the RAM, actually. Oh, that's interesting. So my proposal on this steering wheel design for Dodge is a four

design from the Pujo where you have this bottom connection between the two that can be replaced

by anything from RAM. You will see that I did the inlay with the tungsten, with the RAM tungsten

So it would look like that when you can, when you change it out. And you can and also I did

carbon fiber for the SRT4, et cetera. So it's both utilitarian but also sporty

Makes it more consistent and more customized without spending a lot of money

Oh, yeah. And of course, the owners can go and give Mopar a nice revenue stream by putting in whatever they want

That's what I was thinking. I was like wondering, you know, if they start off, if they start off regular and you can factory order any RAM piece and put it in there, that would also bring them some income, I believe, right

I have wondered because one of the things I've seen quite often is people want to replace the surfaces in their car, the plates and the fascias and the covers

And sometimes a manufacturer lets them do that and sells them the parts

And sometimes it ends up on eBay. And, you know, they put on decals and they buy new ones from third parties

And I keep thinking, you know, why would the companies do that, you know, when they can get, hey, here's some extra money, you know

Yeah, I've seen my friends replace all, like you have all the hard rubber

They replaced it with the wood. And they have like right around the Camry

Yeah. Steering wheels done by done by class. Of course, the ones with the interchangeable rampart

Oh, yeah. Only for your, your medium segment. I said that. Of course, that's your neon intrepid conquest and journey

I have the smaller three spoke that I upgraded, from the original design, I left that to the small ones

You have your Omni and your Nitro. If I ever decide to do a dart or a caliber, those would fall there too

And, of course, Charger. We know the Charger one looks like. I expect that to see on the Challenger if the Challenger returns in the Durango

Yeah, caliber would be one that you might want to skip over

Right, right, yeah. I mean, even Nitro is pushing it. Yeah, no, I don't think those would be too good

Darts said because that was a great name. Conquest is interesting because that would be an appropriate name

Conquest goes into my creativity. So that's where things get interesting. So you step up from your neon, just 3,000 more you can get a conquest

A very popular selling car. My sister had one was the Cross Trek, the Subaru Cross Trek

Very popular. I see them everywhere. They're definitely a lifestyle vehicle. You kind of know the people who buy

a cross-track, like what their personality might be. And this is where I think Dodge could come in

and steal some outback, some cross-track sales. It starts off with the rampage. Now, that's an

interesting front-end look. It is mostly rampage. It's rampage with a lift back, like with a lift

back top. So it's a car. It's a car kind of on the rampage platform

It's a new segment. It's definitely something different. You know, of course, Chrysler being the innovative one

This one, I think, is a little too wild for Chrysler. This is going to Dodge

Conquest was a Chrysler name, I believe. Chrysler name for the Mitsubishi Sterian, if I remember correctly

The conquest name is back on something completely different, completely unique. It's now the Dodge Conquest, and it starts on the rampage, but you have the sedan kind of roof to it

So it sits a little higher. It's definitely a lifestyle vehicle. It's something you want to take outdoors

It's something you want to take camping on, you know, with your friends

A main feature that a lot of people love, which is the split tailgate. That's unusual now

But handy. Oh, that would be clever. You don't see those. You always wish that you had something like that because it's not so much how big your trunk is

And the 300 C at least, can you get something into the trunk

the only thing that would that would kill the perception of this and i if this were to be a reality

i hope they could come some some way around it because the isn't the rampage built in

mexico but you know if it's medium they can build it wherever mediums are built you don't

yes you know that if this is built in canada on stella medium this would this would be a hit

even the so so auto evolution did some articles on some of my designs and i think in the conquest

when they said this would be a big hit. It a matter of getting them to do it Same interior It on the medium So of course you get the medium steering wheel Gosh it such an interesting interior Yeah So this is the conquest This is the one that people are saying would be an absolute money printer for Stalantis

And this one I priced at 25, 945, up to 31, 445 with GTRT

I really wanted to do TRX on this. I'm the design guy, but I think that to have a powerful, require some, TR

sounds cool would kind of be a stretch. So I, so I have three choices of powerful versions of this

GLH, I stuck with like the car type vehicles. I think GLH makes more sense for that. Neon GLH

nitro GLH, OmniGLH, Intrepid GLH, but Conquest, GLH just didn't ring with me quite well

before the kind of vehicle that it is. So next logical one would be SRT. So you step on to an

Intrepid from the conquest at its base 25, 28, the Intrepid. They just dropped the Citron C5X, which I thought was a very

practical, different, interesting kind of car. So the Intrepid is based off of the C5X. I believe it was

my first, if not one of my first, Stalantis Dodge designs. That's the Magnum Form Factor, though

complete with the roof that comes down and eliminates your cargo space

Right, right, yeah. The C5X, would you call it a wagon? It's not quite a sedan

It's not even quite a crossover either. Well, it's got a hatchback

So if it's tall enough, you could call it a crossover. This is not a Peugeot-based car

I think I said I would do it on the 408, which was Peugeot's stablemate to this

And after Howard was looking, I was like, no. I'm not doing this on a Pugio

It's just not turning out so well. Oh, there's the Citroen C5X

Let me see how that looks. Of course, it looked so much better. But it looks somewhere between a sedan and crossover

That might be the future of where things are going. I like the amber turn signals, assuming that's what they are

I'm big on amber. If I do this, I'm telling you, yeah, all the cars that I make amber, much safer

Of course, I would like. So you have kind of a black, glass. ass tail light section

If you could have all the like illumination like down here along the side, that'd be like

along the bottom that'd be really cool. So you have the you have the brake lights there

Inside you have the reverse lights and then on the outside you have the amber

Yeah. That would look like. It looks good. I mean, I like your designs better than I like most

Yeah. Have you ever considered working for Toyota? I mean, they can do some seriously ugly cars without you

Oh my God. I know. I mean, I would bring the, like I said

I'd bring the Toyota reliability to Dodge and Chrysler. I would not like, I'm sorry, I wouldn't want to work for Toyota

I'm just, yeah. It's a different company. It's a, they haven't had a wild and crazy past

And their organizational culture has been pretty consistent and solid for about 80 years

So. Yeah, yeah. They're definitely, you know, I guess, you know, they have

they have their things going for them. But I think also the lack of direction

I think I said that in my video, the lack of direction and leadership for someone

for a company as passionate as Dodge, you know, is like, yeah

I really want to, you know, come up with my, come up with some designs and stuff for them and really

you know, help them out because they've done so much, you know. It's like somebody asked me

why do you follow Christ or not GM and Ford? and its GM and Ford are dull

Well, Ford was started by a Nazi, so I'm not going to like them. But GM, they're so dull

Yeah. They go, they slowly decline. Their slow decline takes 50 years

Mary Barrow comes in, they go back up again, slowly and calmly

And in an orderly fashion, it's not the company that you associate with flashes of genius

Right, right. You know, it's not the company of firsts. It's the company of slowly and methodical

we shall do a very competent product and people will buy it because they want something competent

and mainstream. They are the ones churning out the EVs though. They are doing that and they're doing it in a competent and sensible fashion like they always do

So another 3,000 more you can step up to a true SUV

The ever so popular Dodge Journey. And that one looks a lot more of the part

How much space do you have in the interior of that as it goes back? Because that roof shore slopes back

Oh, yeah. So this is the one I have to talk about

So this was the first one that I was like, okay, journey was popular

I want to do a new journey. Who do I go to in Stalantis that would make this look the part

And I was just like, I'm sorry, no one. So unfortunately, this is built off of a 2023 plus Renault, eSpace

However, it looks a lot like it borrows parts from the charger

So they could definitely lift up a charger and do this. Is it East Base or Espos

I always thought it was. It could be a spot. All right. Just wondering, because it's French word

Yes, minivan converted to, I guess, now full-size SUV. This is it

That's interesting. Definitely has some muscle lines to it. So I was like, yeah, I could work off of this

That's the new Espos or East. base. I like East Base better honestly

But that's fascinating because it's not a MediVan anymore. It's a crossover

So this is Gen 3. Gen 1, of course, that was so popular, very mussely

I think was a result of the discontinuation of the caliber. Based on the Avenger

So it was, yeah, the Avenger was dropped. And then the journey, it was sold for a couple of years

I'm sorry, the original Pacifica crossover. and something else. The original Pacifica crossover

It's based on the minivan. Yeah. I heard this somewhere. This replaced the original Pacifica and something from Dodge

Oh, it replaced the short wheel base caravan is what they told us when it was new

Oh, okay. Dodge Caravan and Chrysler Pacifica. That makes sense. That's Gen 1

Gen 2 is Chinese. It came back in 22. I remember that

GACG-G-G-S-5 journey. Actually looks pretty cool. Looks very good. Definitely looks, the part looks very Dodge

If it was available here, I'd probably look at it. Yeah. Well

that looks a lot like a journey. That's true. Yeah. I like yours better

but that's pretty good. This is Gen 3. Started off from a Renault

But yeah, I like yours better. I like, you know, I really do like your front-end treatments

Yes of course I think uh Susie Q some others have been saying why are you putting the charger thing on everything I mean the charger I guess is showing the new design language for Dodge

And I think it works on actually most of my designs. It's a thought because, you know, when you're trying to rebuild a brand

it's not a terrible way to do it. We need more colors and that's where Dodge, that's what Dodge is good for

It would be nice. But, you know, that charge $800 for. I mean, I've definitely seen the color that stands out most of me

And I'm, for some reason, associate with the Dodge Journey. They're known for bringing the bright orange

Orange journey. That's how I should show it often. It's a beautiful color

Yeah. Yeah. That would be nice. No, they could definitely do this off the charger

The charger has the same lines to it. Just lift up the charger a little bit, make it crossover

They could pull something like this off, off of the charger, I think

and you have this SUV. I think this was like, should I do medium

Should I do it large? If you have the Durango, we'll get to the Durango. Durango has a lot of controversy, but this would be more CUV like

They could definitely differentiate. You have one be more boxy, the other be more curvy

Stella large, 319 to 385 for a new journey. I think that would be reasonable

It's a very different price class from the original, but with the intrepid there serving the original journey's main purpose, that would work

Yeah. Conquest, I think conquest is where the bulk is, you know, it's the most utilitarian

capable Dodge, different Dodge, affordable, $25,000. A lot of people are looking for something in that

And of course, CEO is talking about a $25,000 Jeep. I'll just go into a little bit of discussion

about not everything should be a Jeep. We have too much Jeep

Jeep is just oversaturated. It's gone away from its roots. We don't need everything being a Jeep

Jeep should be narrowed down to different kind of status vehicle. You have maybe four or five good boxy, off-road capable jeeps

And that's it. The Waggoner S, you know, Wagoneer whatever is going off-track

of what they should be. It's true. The original Waganeer was a serious custom-built off-road vehicle

They got a truck out of it, but they didn't base it on the truck. It was co-engineering, and again, off-road was their number one for both

A little talking about Jeep. Gladiator, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, Rangler. Keep it simple

If I was there, I'd probably even drop the Wagoneer. I dropped the compass

I dropped the renegade. I dropped some of those other ones. Outside of the U.S., I guess that's fine

India, Jeep is, Dodger's only presence. The Meridian over there looks actually really cool

That is, so Drango, large, boxier. What does it start? Let me do a little bit of background research

Let me get on, let me hop on Dodge's website. I know we're in a transition period, so I believe they still have

Yes, they do. Two more years. Two more years. Starts at 41 right now

Minus about $3,600, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, about $38,000, and you've got it starting at about $35,000

So that would be a drop. Yes. And I actually, yes, so actually I did not include, oh, I don't know why I said Drango

GLH. I think that should be, that should probably SART. But I think I was limiting it to the

mainstream. I was kind of trying to stay in the general bulk of Durango sales. Because I know if you

add on SARTs and Banshees and stuff, maybe I'll expand this out a little bit more. I'll edit it on my

on my B-hance. But you hear about all the SRTs and the higher trim charges

just sitting on the lot. So they really need to move those higher trims

I don't know. Maybe I should probably rename this to SRT, but I think constraining that sport trim down a little bit

might be a good idea for them. It needs 70,000, you know, for an SRT

41 might be a little too small, might be a little too cheap

SART is for 41, maybe 45,000. I'll play with the Durango numbers a little bit, but I think I put charger I put

I think what I'm seeing out right now or everything that they're talking about, of course

So we've got our first edition chargers. The pricing is out. But people are saying, oh, you know, that's so bad for Dodge

They're not going to sell anything. But if you read between the lines, there are like seven packages, all totaling about $16,000

And we don't know the difference between the sedan. and the coup. Sedan is the one that I'm going to buy

So I'm still waiting for sedan numbers. On their website, notice that the charger is more expensive than the Challenger

The Challenger is actually the cheaper one. I mean, based on the numbers they're showing, I think most people are hoping that they are going to flip it

Because on the numbers that I was doing, you take up all those packages. I have it on the form

You do standard output, high output. but you could be looking at 50K, maybe just maybe high 40s for a standard output coup

So if that's what you're doing, and of course, you know, the charger has always been a wide range of cars, you know, from your SRT to your base level

The sedan has to undershoot this coup. I think it has to be successful

And finally, I have the Dodge derivative. of the Imperial, which I wouldn't expect to sell all that well here, but I think would make a good

overseas car, maybe even a fleet car. I have the Dodge Dynasty, very large, less performance

oriented sedan would be more of a fleet car, be kind of big, and of course, it's more utilitarian looking

This one, of course, I said overseas would probably be Middle East and China exclusive

Makes sense. The big back seats are always appreciated. AED to 146 to 170 AED is actually right between the Durango and the Charger

So this is 39,000 and this is about 60,000. Thank you